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Final month we celebrated the one-year publishing anniversary of our guide Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Recreation by Strolling Away. But, even now, at any time when we stroll right into a Barnes & Noble, stroll over to the enterprise part and autograph a replica for a future reader, we’re introduced again to our twenties and reminded of how this guide is a bodily manifestation of our desires come true.
Because it’s launch, readers have shared their monetary wins, tales of grief, overwhelm and peculiar hang-ups with us. They’ve requested questions and even given us recommendation on wildly introspective subjects that have an effect on our monetary lives. Amidst the chaos of social media, it’s made the remark part a joyful expertise. And in actual life, having additionally hung out with readers of their workplaces, campuses, church teams, and guide golf equipment; it’s made assembly strangers—not so unusual in any respect really.
But, there are nonetheless moments we discover ourselves pissed off that conversations about cash aren’t shifting quicker, as a result of in our thoughts, there’s a lot extra to cash than saving it, spending it and investing it.
Cash is political, emotional, cultural; and most significantly, private.
Since there’s solely a lot we may match contained in the 243 web page manuscript, we wished to maintain the dialog going. Specifically, we wished to problem readers and listeners to actually consider their relationships with work for the reason that two—cash and work—go hand in hand.

Introducing the Cashing Out podcast
The Cashing Out podcast is a continuation of our mission to encourage higher conversations about cash by connecting you to specialists, authors and mates who assist us higher perceive the monetary implications of a broader vary of topics. Our hope is that with every episode, you be taught one thing and really feel motivated to have broader, deeper and extra nuanced conversations about cash in methods chances are you’ll not have earlier than.
In season 1, we speak with one of many nation’s main divorce attorneys, specialists on psychological well being, a gaggle of fathers, thought leaders on motherhood, an knowledgeable on variety, fairness, and inclusion and extra. We chat with a group of fathers with various levels of expertise, one of many main voices in index fund investing, leaders in tech, early retirees and some individuals who’ve already “cashed out” to higher perceive the emotional energy required to kiss company life goodbye.
Earlier than you dive in, there are three issues it is best to know:
1. The Cashing Out podcast is a video-first podcast, often known as a ‘vodcast’, which implies it was first edited and distributed by means of YouTube
After filming 2 seasons of Cash on the Desk, we knew YouTube would finally change into the world’s largest classroom. And after recording over 100 episodes of the wealthy & REGULAR podcast, we’re satisfied the influence of audio and video content material is simply starting to be unlocked. Combining the 2 to create the Cashing Out podcast flexed a really totally different artistic muscle for each of us and got here with its personal set of challenges.
For one, we communicate at totally different volumes. I’m naturally louder however once I get excited, you may actually hear it. Julien has extra of a quiet-storm, radio-friendly voice, and typically when he’s making a very good level, I discover myself squinting simply to listen to it higher.
In the future we had been having a heated dialogue about who ought to alter their vocals. I known as him ‘soft-spoken,’ and with out lacking a beat he turned to me and stated,
“I’m not soft-spoken. You simply don’t know what it’s wish to reside in small areas!”
As quickly as he stated it, a lightbulb went off in my head. Despite the fact that we’ve been collectively for over 10 years and married for nearly 8 of them, I’d by no means made the connection between the surroundings he grew up in and the tone he speaks with. That form of realization is on the coronary heart of what we wish this podcast to do for you, as a result of
typically listening to different individuals’s tales can unearth a hidden-in-plain-sight element that’s impacting your personal journey in sneaky methods.
2. New Orleans serves because the backdrop to the conversations as a result of it’s a metropolis that evokes us
It’s the place we acquired married and it’s a spot that has confronted adversity and are available out stronger time and time once more which is why it serves as the proper backdrop for the conversations we had with our friends.
As we walked round New Orleans, we seen the scars of town however we additionally discovered tales of resilience. Once we regarded past the beads hanging from balconies, we noticed poetry on partitions and sidewalks like little affirmations or indicators of help. In episode 2 the place we talk about psychological well being within the office, you hear from people like Rwenshaun Miller and Wealthy Jones who embody that very same spirit.
And naturally, we will’t overlook the meals! In every single place we ate mirrored the nuance within the tales we had been making an attempt to inform. One evening, we stumbled into our lodge foyer and found a restaurant known as Ginger Roux which was a fusion of Creole and Cantonese cuisines. There, we ordered dishes like Gumbo Dumplings and Lemongrass BBQ Shrimp out of curiosity greater than something. We had been skeptical of how the flavors would work collectively however a lot to our shock, we left asking why they weren’t ready this fashion, to start with. It was ahhmazing!





We loved joyful hour at Elysian Bar the place the drinks had been scrumptious, advanced, and a little bit bitter too—just like the wedding recommendation Aaron offered in Episode 1 as we tackled prenuptial agreements. And once we dined at TAVA Indian Road Meals, we acquired a well timed reminder of how atypical elements can shine should you simply put them within the place to take action. It was a mouthwatering lesson in simplicity, identical to the one JL Collins gave us about investing in Episode 3.
From collard inexperienced melts at Turkey & The Wolf to frog legs and caviar at Bar Marilou, the extent of innovation we noticed was unmatched. It proved that like workplaces, when eating places problem conventional expectations and worth numerous views, the result’s really wonderful.
3. You don’t must hear or watch in any specific order
The Cashing Out podcast is seasonal which implies we aren’t releasing episodes weekly just like the wealthy & REGULAR podcast. Every episode stands alone so that you’re welcome to binge it the identical method you’ll your favourite Netflix present, or be at liberty to only decide a subject that resonates with no matter is occurring in your life. It’s completely as much as you.
Additionally, whereas it’s a video-first podcast, you can even discover it in audio solely format through Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google podcasts and all main podcast platforms. If there’s a platform lacking you’ve grown accustomed to, ship us a word at hi there@richandregular.com and we’ll see what we will do to get it revealed there as properly.
Conclusion:
4 years in the past, in the course of the early levels of the guide writing course of, you would not have satisfied us we’d be the place we’re in the present day. Cashing Out has been featured in main tv, print and digital media throughout the nation. We’ve been interviewed by dozens of podcasters and 1000’s of readers/listeners have bought copies.
We traveled the nation on our guide tour utilizing the momentum and pleasure as a lever to battle meals insecurity. Shortly after launch, Cashing Out was high ranked on Amazon in a number of classes in each codecs (hardover and audiobook) for over per week and Enterprise Insider named it the 2023 Greatest Total private finance guide for Investing. Contemplating lower than 6% of revealed authors are Black we’d say that’s fairly superior for a few artistic individuals who don’t act, sing or play skilled sports activities.

To be clear, we don’t simply need individuals to rethink their cash and give up their jobs for the sake of doing it or to achieve some slice of notoriety. These aren’t the tales we’re all in favour of. As we wrote within the guide, we’re way more all in favour of listening to “
The tales of the {couples} who prevented divorce as a result of they might afford to take holidays and really unplug collectively. The story of the rock-star worker who hopped off the company ladder to prioritize their psychological well being, youngsters, or caring for an growing old guardian. Or the tales of non-profit organizations that achieved their funding objectives by a handful of nameless donors. All of those situations mixed advance our households, affect insurance policies and enhance our native communities.
That’s what cashing out is all about.”
Kiersten Saunders
